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themooon
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:52 am Reply with quote
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When playing Washizu mahjong, do you draw to the very last tile, or do you stop playing when the number of tiles left equals 14 minus the number of drawn dora tiles?

It would be cool if a mahjong parlor offered Washizu mahjong with a lady dealer who would wear a glove and deal the tiles from a bag, and who would helpfully report the number of tiles remaining.
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Kintaro
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:24 am Reply with quote
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As in regular mahjong, there are 70 draws (this counts East's 14th tile at the start.) and 14 *replenishing* dead wall tiles.

Specifically, it means that in a real game, even though a wall of 14 is broken off, if two kan are made, the last two tiles most variants are used to picking are dead. (the third last being haitei). In Washizu Mahjong, as you said, it's 14 - the dora indicators that are to be left in the bag in the case of a winless hand.

It is possible to mentally keep track of who it's supposed to end on (regardless of variant) by counting pon, kan, and chi, all relevant to position, remembering that in a closed game with no kan, it's meant to end on South. But I'm not that good yet.

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themooon
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:45 am Reply with quote
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If I were playing Washizu mahjong and had no lady around to use as dealer, I would want to play with all tiles the same weight, and put the bag of tiles on a scale so that we could all see how many tiles were left in it.
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themooon
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:50 am Reply with quote
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As for a wall in Washizu mahjong:

Perhaps it would be cool to have a wall, but not if 3/4 of the tiles were transparent -- if only 1/2 were transparent, then I think it would be OK to have a wall, to see if you could use calls (chi, pon, kan) to move tiles you wanted around to you and/or away from your opponents.

I can see someone keeping a concealed kan in reserve so that they can use it to move someone else's needed tile out of their reach! I am guessing that Washizu would have loved doing that.
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sir_seagill
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:40 am Reply with quote
Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 107 Location: Australia
maybe if only 1/4 were transparent...
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